Re: [BKARTS] Paper grain

["Charles D. Jones" <cjones@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, William,
I also use that analogy.  I  used to use a bamboo placemat to keep my 
good brushes in.

BTW don't trust a paper dealer that you don't know to know about paper 
grain.  I bought 500 sheets of a French text wt. paper for a book from 
a large dealer in New York that I was assured was grain long only to 
find out that it was short.  After much back and forth on the phone, I 
used it with additional sheets  shipped and had to cut off much more 
than I  like.  That old depression mentality at work I guess.

Best wishes on what promises to become a  cold night.  Blue norther is 
coming to East Texas.  It is 70 degrees  now and will be 30 in a couple 
of hours.  Stiff ink for sure in the morning.

Charles


On Nov 29, 2006, at 5:36 PM, William Minter wrote:

> Chad,
> If I understand your reply correctly, I think you are wrong with your 
> description of "curl". The damp side will EXPAND, thus the curl will 
> be toward the DRY side, and AWAY from the damp/wet side.
> I always tell students to think of paper as a woven, bamboo placemat. 
> The bamboo placemat, just as with paper, will roll or curl more easily 
> in one direction. Therefore, if you wet (mist or sponge) "one side" of 
> the paper, the fibers will immediately expand and the paper will curl, 
> and that should tell you the grain direction.
> Bill Minter
>
>
> On Nov 29, 2006, at 4:51 PM, Chad Longley wrote:
>
> > I hold it up by one corner and spray the opposite corner.  It 
> > immediately
> > starts to curl along one edge toward the damp side.
> >
> > Chad Longley
> > chad.longley@xxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Book_Arts-L [mailto:BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of jessica syme
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 3:12 PM
> > > To: BOOK_ARTS-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [BKARTS] Paper grain
> > >
> > > Thanks Charles
> > > I just tried this ... but can I show my ignorance further by
> > > asking - are you lying it flat or holding it up ...I haven't
> > > got much curling going on...are you damping it with a cloth
> > > or immersing it gently in water?
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