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Re: bookplate identification - Thanks!



J. Fernando Pena, Cataloguer for The Grolier Club, kindly informed me that 
no "History of Rhedi" appears in the catalogue among the items that were 
sold in Jean-Philibert Peysson de Bacot's July-August 1779 sale (supplement 
is devoted to the library of M. Jouvencel).    

He also examined the French bookplate reference source that Michael 
mentioned (Olivier, Hermal et al., all 29 volumes!), and found no reference to 
the Jouvencel crest.

I'm passing this information along to the list so that no one else will try to 
follow up on my request, and also so that you will all know of J. Fernando 
Pena's kindness!

Thanks again also to Michael North and Sara Weber.

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> > Can someone help me identify an armorial bookplate?
> 
> I've had some help already.  Armed with this new information, perhaps 
> someone can help me with the next step.
> 
> An image is posted here:
> http://www.risingdove.com/share/jouvencel_bookplate.jpg
> 
> Sara Weber ways:
> 
> "The correct heraldic description of the arms on this bookplate would be, 'paly 
> of six or and azure, on a chief gules a fess dancetty argent,' which Papworth 
> lists as being the arms of the family name 'Blesset'.  Papworth, however, is 
> only interested in British armorials, so I don't know if this would be related or 
> not."  
> 
> Michael North, who is trying to find out more about a book-collector named 
> M. Jouvencel (who might be the same person named on the bookplate) says 
> the book itself may be listed in a sale catalogue, which the Grolier 
> Club owns...
> 
> "M. Jouvencel's library was sold at auction in Lyon, July 26-August 26, 1779; 
> it was a supplementary sale to that of Jean-Philibert Peysson de Bacot, 
> whose name appears on the title page of the catalogue."   
> 
> The book itself is:
> "The history of Rhedi, the hermit of Mount Ararat. An 
> Oriental tale." (No author given, but LOC lists a 1974 
> reprint and names the author as William Duff.)
> London: T. Cadell, 1773.
> 2 p. l., 307 p. 18 cm. 
> 
> 
> If you happen to have access to the catalog, would you 
> be willing to check on whether this book is listed?
> 
> The book having been published in 1773 in London makes 
> it not impossible that it should have been sold in Lyon 
> in 1779. Of course we are all aware that "just because 
> he's Larry Bird and you're Tweety Bird... "   ;-)
> 
> Michael North also says the place to look for the Coat of 
> Arms would probably be: Olivier, Eugène; Georges 
> Hermal; and Robert de Roton.  "Manuel de l'amateur de 
> reliures armoriées françaises."
> Paris: Ch. Bosse, 1924-1935. 
> LC Call No.:   Z270.F8O4
> LCCN: 25007458
> 
> If anyone has access to this "Manuel de l'amateur de reliures 
> armoriées françaises,"* would you be willing to look up 
> the Coat of Arms for us, and pass on whatever 
> information you find? 
> 
> * Not to be confused with "Manuel Historique et Bibliographique de l'Amateur 
> de Reliures," which is about book-binding. (I add that because I was 
> temporarily confused, and my Oxford Hachette was not much help.)
> 
> > Armorial bookplate with lion rampant above the shield, wielding sword; motto 
> > (or owner's name?) is "Cuchet Jouvencel."
> > 
> > I found a reference to Peter Cuchet Jouvencel at 
> > http://www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/publications/office/office2.html
> > 
> > ..but this is all way out of my field.
> > 
> > I would be happy to send you a scanned image for identification.
> > The book is dated 1773.
> 
> 
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